Sunday, September 13, 2009

Looking for a job?

Having been either a minister's kid or minister's wife all but a few years of my life, I've heard of some pretty ridiculous expectations churches have of their ministers. This one may take the cake. All I can say to this church is... GOOD LUCK.

I deleted any contact/location info.

8/10/2009—Position: Pulpit/Youth Minister (Part-time)

Date Open: 8/10/2009
Dead Line: September 9, 2009
Qualifications: see below
Marital Status: Preferred Married
Position Expectations: see below
Salary Range: $25,000
Notes: Evangelist/Youth Minister
Job Description
• The (name of church)is hiring a part-time evangelist/youth minister to serve the congregation in (name of town). He and his family will be required to attend and worship with the congregation. The position will consist of 20 hours per week with preaching and teaching responsibilities required.
Minimum Qualifications
• Preference will be given to the successful candidate who is a graduate of or attended a Church of Christ educational institution.
• Preference will be given to the applicant married with child(ren).
• The successful applicant must be a Christian for 10 years or more.
• The successful applicant’s immediate family must place membership with the church.
• This position is a part-time position consisting of 20 hours a week.
• The position will require 10 hours per week as youth minister and 10 hours per week as the evangelist.
• You are required to preach every Sunday morning.
• You are required to teach the teens on Sunday morning and Wednesday night.
• The position requires activities with the youth group, aside from worship times.
• The position requires a daily journal of all activities. This is for review at the business meetings and/or by elders.
• The position has no benefits such as sick leave, insurance, vacation or holiday pay.
• He must make available office hours for counseling, individual/group bible studies, etc.
• Here is a list of some activities that are required but not limited to:
o Visitation with church family & community
o Teen Devotionals
o Preaching
o Teaching
o Vacation Bible School
o Monthly teen activities
o Individual Bible Studies
• If you can not full-fill a monthly obligation, you will be required to make up the time the following week. This is to be approved by treasurer of the church.
• $25,000 per year paid bi-weekly.
• All applicable taxes will be deducted.
Application Information
• You must have 3 letters of reference. Two of those letters need to be from congregations in which you have attended or worked.
• The successful candidate is required to have a background check (BCII) if he has lived in (state) his whole life. If out of (state) for less than 5 years ago, an FBI check is also required. Both of which can be completed at any sheriff’s department or school district office.
mit a resume.
• Deadline is September 9, 2009.


  • At Sun Sep 13, 08:35:00 PM, Blogger Nellie said…

    You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding! Did you make this up, Deana? :)

  • At Sun Sep 13, 08:47:00 PM, Blogger Sarah said…

    I started reading this to my husband and he stopped me in the middle, saying, "Okay seriously, that's enough, I'm starting to get really ticked off!" (I think it hit a little too close to home for us lol)

    Pretty unbelievable stuff.

  • At Sun Sep 13, 08:56:00 PM, Blogger Kelly said…

    Wow. So many things about it bothered me but especially the "full-fill." When did that word become hyphenated?

  • At Sun Sep 13, 09:35:00 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    What's really sad about this is that this part time pay is more than A LOT of fulltime youthworker salaries!!
    And that job description isn't really much different than hundreds I've seen!!

    Jeff (fulltime youthworker 7+ years)

  • At Sun Sep 13, 09:38:00 PM, Blogger believingthomas said…

    John Alan Turner was griping about this one a while back. These people are really messed up. Of course I saw one time a youth minister was selected over several much better candidates because he promised not to leave. Churches do crazy things.

  • At Mon Sep 14, 02:04:00 AM, Blogger Cheryl said…

    Wow. Typed out or not...this is the expectation of ministers and their families all too often. Painful on many levels. Thanks for posting this. Maybe speaking dissent for such offers can slowly turn the tide. :-)

  • At Mon Sep 14, 07:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sounds like a very suspicious or badly-burned eldership - but still ridiculous requirements!

  • At Mon Sep 14, 08:02:00 AM, Blogger Sarah P said…

    This has BURN OUT written all over it. I just heard a story recently about a woman who was thoroughly shocked and annoyed because the preaching minister at her church earned a higher salary than she did - even though he holds a Masters of Divinity and has been preaching there for decades. I don't understand why ministers are viewed as "less". Churches don't want ministers to leave, and everyone is incensed and hurt and resentful when they do, but too many times they treat them so pitifully that it's almost as if they're asking them to quit.

  • At Mon Sep 14, 12:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sadly I bet they think this is a cush job and they are doing anyone who will take it a favor. Part time my ars!

  • At Mon Sep 14, 07:35:00 PM, Blogger Deana Nall said…

    It's not the money that bugs me. (Although I know this job is in a part of the country were $25,000 means even less than it does in the South.) Where is the "We want you to be part of our church family"? If a church is going to ask someone to move from family/friends to invest in people, someone needs to be willing to invest in them (outside of the husband's job) once they get there. This is just a list of duties and ridiculous expectations. Someone is supposed to uproot their family for this? Yuck.

    That and the "daily journal." (shudder)

  • At Tue Sep 15, 06:01:00 PM, Blogger WinSpin said…

    I could say a lot about "our" early youth ministry but the job description for my first youth location was to take a copy of the pictorial directory and visit in each member's home (which in itself was a pleasant assignment) and the second portion was to teach the ladies' Bible class on Tuesdays.
    Nothing was said about working with the teens. Turned out they did not know what a youth minister was supposed to do...they just thought it was time to have one...

  • At Wed Sep 16, 08:09:00 AM, Blogger Larissa said…

    Hi, you don't know me, I just popped your blog!

    My dad was a minister for 27 years...I've seen some pretty crazy stuff and seen him abused by churches. It's amazing to me that churches don't take care of their own seems like they set them up for failure or something. That's sad.

  • At Sun Sep 27, 10:39:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    At least this congregation spelled out what they expect. We worked with congregations who didn't let us know what they expected...but then complained (and sometimes fired) when expectations were not met.

  • At Fri Oct 02, 12:19:00 PM, Blogger Brian said…

    What's sad is that someone fresh out of preaching school will probably take this job...and before this church is done with them they will probably end up deciding never to preach anywhere again.

    You probably should send the name of the church to people in leadership positions so the word will get out to stay away.

    Poor guy will end up working 1/2 the 20 hours just on Sunday!!!


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